Takeaways & timestamps
00:00 Introduction and background of Phil Royston
08:00 The evolution of quality engineering
18:27 Mindset change: From tester-centric to cross-functional
25:40 Breaking down silos: The challenge of collaboration
28:38 The need for soft and hard skills
30:45 Challenges faced by leaders and managers in quality engineering
35:22 Transitioning to non-hierarchical teams
45:30 Starting the journey into quality engineering
-
Quality engineering is a mindset change and a shift towards a more collaborative and feedback-driven approach.
-
There is a risk of quality engineering becoming a rebranding of traditional testing if organisations do not embrace the cultural shift.
-
Cross-functional teams require T-shaped individuals who have expertise in their domain, but are also comfortable collaborating and contributing in other areas.
-
The power of agile and quality engineering lies in the ability to give feedback on the process and continuously improve.
-
The focus should be on delivering value and improving the quality of the product throughout the development lifecycle. Automation in testing is not as scary as it may seem, and some people are eager to start doing it.
-
In DevOps, having a single expert who knows how to do a specific task can be an anti-pattern that blocks the flow of work.
-
Soft skills, such as mentorship and cross-functional collaboration, are crucial in testing and should be given more focus in education and conferences.
-
Creating a safe space for feedback and problem-solving is essential for teams to improve and make decisions collectively.
-
The journey into quality engineering requires a mindset shift from passive to proactive and the development of soft skills.
Inside the outer loop
September 9th, 2024
48 minutes
In this episode, Rich Jordan and James Walker are joined by special guest Phil Royston, CEO & Founder of Tesena.
Phil Royston starts the conversation by sharing his journey into the testing and quality industry. He emphasizes the importance of mindset change and the shift from a tester-centric approach to a cross-functional, collaborative approach for quality engineering.
The conversation explores the challenges of breaking down silos and the need for continuous improvement in the software testing industry. James and Rich explore the importance of soft skills in DevOps and testing, and the role of experts in teams. They also delve into the challenges faced by leaders and managers in quality engineering and the transition to non-hierarchical teams.
Phil also brings up the concept of self-organisation, and the impact of culture on team dynamics. The conversation concludes with advice for newcomers in the industry starting their quality engineering journey.
Watch the full episode to learn more!
Join Rich Jordan, James Walker and special guest Phil Royston, CEO & Founder of Tesena. Together, they discuss the evolution of quality engineering as a role and why continuous improvement is essential in the software testing industry.