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Why didn’t you test that? Podcast | episode 24

How to manage IT technical debt

 

Mitigate the risk of technical debt with modelling

Welcome to episode 24 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast. In this episode, Rich Jordan and Huw Price are joined by Marcel Mersie, Technical Lead and Executive Advisor to the Dutch Tax Administration. Together, they discuss why effective communication, collaboration, documentation, and modelling are crucial for managing IT technical debt and knowledge transfer.

 

 

Marcel Mersie highlights a key challenge the Dutch Tax Administration and other large organisations are facing when key employees retire; the loss and leakage of system and operations knowledge.

To mitigate this loss, Rich explains how modelling and documentation can effectively capture and transfer critical knowledge before it’s lost. Additionally, effective communication and collaboration between teams is also crucial for seamless knowledge sharing, and addressing challenges systematically.

Marcel continues to describe the challenges he's seen in government organisations, implementing AI and modernising technology can be particularly difficult due to the complexity of legacy systems. Refactoring and addressing technical debt are therefore important strategies to maintain efficiency and prevent future problems.

The team conclude the conversation by highlighting how adopting a systematic approach and fostering an environment of open communication and collaboration, organisations can better manage knowledge transfer and technological advancement. This ensures that critical knowledge is retained, efficiency is maintained, and future challenges are proactively addressed.

Watch the full episode to learn more!

      

03:23 The Challenge of Knowledge Leakage

05:58 The Role of Modelling and Documentation

08:32 Importance of Communication and Collaboration

11:28 Capturing Data and Understanding Systems

17:27 Challenges in Addressing Knowledge Leakage

21:40 Complexity of Legacy Systems

23:50 Addressing the Lack of Resources and Skilled Personnel

27:08 Breaking Through Resistance to Change

32:40 The Importance of Refactoring and Paying Off Technical Debt

35:22 Using Technology to Improve Efficiency and Testing

37:59 Leaders in Driving Change

Hosts and guests

Huw Price - Curiosity Software

Huw Price - Chairman & Co-Founder

Described as “the Godfather of test data”. Huw is a serial test data inventor, and has worked with the world’s largest organisations.

Rich Jordan - Curiosity Software

Rich Jordan - Enterprise Solution Architect

Rich Jordan has reached over 20 years in testing, mainly within complex financial services environments. 

Marcel Mersie - IT Technical Lead

Marcel Mersie - Technical Lead

Marcel is an experienced Consultant who's been working in ICT since 1988, and is currently an Executive Advisor to the Dutch Tax Administration.

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