Together with industry leaders and experts, the Curiosity team uncovers actionable strategies to navigate the outer loop of software delivery, streamline test data management, and elevate software quality!
Timestamps & takeaways
00:00 Introduction and background
04:03 The role of a quality bartender
07:18 Speaking tour and conversations
10:11 The pitfalls of excessive test automation
14:17 Challenges in managing complex systems
19:19 The value of monoliths and microservices
25:01 Shifting left: beyond agile practices
27:49 The challenges of testing in agile development
29:35 The underappreciated role of testers
39:44 Streamlining end-to-end test automation
46:53 Prioritizing quality and optimizing processes
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Anand's journey into testing was unplanned but rewarding.
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Quality is an end-to-end process, not just testing.
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The role of a quality bartender is about mixing the right ingredients for success.
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Shifting left in testing requires collaboration and early feedback.
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Testability should be considered from the start of development.
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AI can assist in testing but cannot replace the need for testers.
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Automation should simplify processes, not complicate them.
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Flaky tests are a major challenge in automation.
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Organizations need to define entry and exit criteria for testing activities.
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The number of automated tests does not equate to quality.
Inside the outer loop
December 30th, 2024
57 minutes
In this episode, Rich Jordan and James Walker are joined by special guest Anand Bagmar, a software quality evangelist with 25 years of experience in software testing.
Together, they discuss Anand's journey into the testing field, his philosophy of being a 'quality bartender,' and insights from his recent speaking tour. The conversation delves into the challenges of test automation, the importance of shifting left in testing, and the role of AI in the testing landscape.
Anand emphasizes the need for testability, the complexities of end-to-end automation, and the importance of having a strong voice in organizations to drive quality improvements. The episode concludes with Anand's advice on adopting practices that work for individual contexts rather than blindly following trends.
Watch the full episode to learn more!
Join Rich Jordan, James Walker and special guest Anand Bagmar, a software quality evangelist with 25 years of experience. Together, they discuss Anand's journey into the testing field, his philosophy of being a 'quality bartender,' and insights from his recent speaking tour.